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Friday night a drone missile hit a Norwegian People Aid's car that was parked outside the house of the international NGO's employee Mahmoud Hamada. The Norwegian Ministry of foreign affairs characterizes the attack as a violation of humanitarian law.
Gaza: Clearly marked aid vehicle hit by Israeli drone
Seeded on Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:57 AM EST
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the car was clearly marked with the NPA logo, and that it was impossible for the personell in control of the drone to miss that this was a humanitarian vehicle.
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#1 - Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:59 AM ESTThe U.N. is impotent............
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#3 - Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:50 AM ESTThe UN is not mentioned in this article. Do you mean the UN should intervene?
The UN security council resolution passed, did it not? If Israel does not halt its offensive, it is in breach of international law.
Would not call that impotent. The UN is as strong as its member states make it.
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Well peter, until the UN grows the balls to chapter 7 their resolutions, I'm afraid KL has a point.
I wish they did try that and we both know that the US will strike it down; maybe also France. But then at least we will know black on white who besides Israel is slaughtering the children of Gaza.
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KL,
I agree, which is why Israel should give their land back to the Palestinians.
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thanks, mars............
"give their land back to the Palestinians"?
I am a stickler for clear language...........discontinue the land grab and restore palestinian rights to their home...........is more what I would say.
But most certainly hold Israel accountable for the crimes they are committing as we speak. And clear up the confusion between the Zionist label when discussing Israel. In my column there was a very interesting comment made, in the TVPress seed.
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If the U.S. were finally to allow the Global vision of Peace in the area, which even Hamas as agreed to, to return to the 67 Borders, Israel would have to give back land stolen by the settlers.
Now, see, that's the part that all of the pro-Israel folks are ignoring. They shrug that little part off by saying "well, Palestine wasn't officially a state to begin with" while ignoring that regardless of what the US and other countries acknowledge as "official", there were still people living there. It was their home, taken from them by a bunch of foreign powers simply because they don't "acknowledge" the existence of an "official" state of Palestine. That's how Israel came into being, and that's why so many Zionist apologists shrug off the fact that Israel is continuing to take land from Palestinian people.
Then they shrug off the anti-Zionist people by saying they're "terrorist apologists", like we somehow support and condone the shooting of rockets to kill civilians, instead of looking into why these sorts of retaliations are occurring. More turning a blind eye, saying things like "they want to kill all Jews," or "they hate our freedoms." Even then, they never try to answer why to those over-generic statements.
There will never be a solution while the people remain deliberately ignorant.
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watch out now, the right winged Zionist apologists are going to make up 101 excuses why that isn't a war crime.
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#4 - Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:58 AM ESTI am listening ;-)
By the way, the article said 'violation against humanitarian law', not war crime. Even though in the Gaza conflict there are ample (other) examples of war crimes.
The UN Human Rights Commissioner has demanded an investigation into several of these. (see this seed
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The list of Chapter VII interventions includes:[2]
- United Nations Security Council Resolution 1267
- United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor
- United Nations Mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo
- International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda
- United Nations Mission in Sierra Leone
- United Nations Assistance Mission for Rwanda
- United Nations Angola Verification Mission II
- United Nations Operation in Somalia II
- United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission
- United Nations Protection Force
- Oil-for-Food Programme
- Gulf War
any other instance where the "breaker of the peace" used Drones? Are these British or American made? And what does U.S. have to gain from their position? they fund this and aggresively support the breakers of the peace...........so, where does the nuetral voice that can gain and end to hostiliy come from in order to meditate a return to peace...this a return to discussions?
Of course I have my opinions but, many things impact this "old fashioned" thinking. We must stop thinking like civilians and identify what all parties are truly "about". that can not happen as long as one of the parties is cloaked in protective language by the entity that can have the greatest impact on ceasation of hostiliy............isn't that so?
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other instance where the "breaker of the peace" used Drones?
Lebanon 2006
Are these British or American made?
Israeli/US cooperation
And what does U.S. have to gain from their position?
The US in general is not, but certain forces in the US clearly yes. It is more than likely that the US will "pay" for its unconditional support for the massive murder of Palestinians in one way or another. This plays into the hands of those who whish to convert the US into an antagonist of the world and want the US to systematically break any international law and convention. And there are many in the US who want that.
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it's nice when a conversatoin comes together................;)
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KL and MW.
it seems you guys have a moment here... You want me to leave the two of you for a while? ;-)
Seriously.
KL: the links your quote a bit higher up are broken.. If you could do anything to restore them.
On the UN (again)... and as a UN staff of course this is personal, I don't like the UN bashing. In the political and peacekeeping arena of the UN, it is the member countries that make or break 'the UN'. If the US (or China, or Russia) repeatedly block UN resolutions (condemning this or the other one), then nothing 'the UN' can do, unless if the member countries wants it do something.
If, even after a resolution, action is taken, but not sanctioned, nor verified, (or not funded like the peace keeping mission in Darfur) there is nothing 'the UN' can do. Unless the member countries take action. Why did Bush wait until just last week to send out support material to the peace keeping mission in Darfur? The UN has been crying for at least a year for hardware, for personnel. Of course 'the UN' could not be effective.
Having said that: the UN peace keepers screwed up big time in Rwanda, the Balkans, recently in DRC. Partly unclear mandates, partly an inherent wrongly deviced machine, UNDPKO, that is. Obscure line of commands, obscure accountability. How do we even think this thing to work: military forces from x different countries under one command. comprised of x countries again. Certainly in the miltary where the chain of command is normally so well and so strictly defined?
Ok. back to the Gaza issue now. Now that we solved the UN issue, how do we solve the Gaza issue?
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The Israelis have for years killed, maimed, and scarred people just because. There has never been a justifiable excuse for the USS Liberty or why 2 to 3 Israeli spies a year are caught in sensitive positions in the US Government. Can someone clear this up?
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